Reflections on rebranding with JKR

KW: So I'm going to start with a big question, and then we'll get more specific as we go along. Tell us about the rebrand for Nordstrom Rack!

RG: When I first inherited the Rack brand, I immediately wanted to tackle our brand identity because I felt we were doing a disservice to our customers. When you look at this area of the market, there's not a lot of attention paid to really high-quality, promotional design. And so that was something that was important for us to focus on. In the last few years, the growth of the Rack brand has become a big priority for us as a company. So, the focus was justified to meet and support the business growth that we were looking for.

KW: And how did you go about starting that discussion, that process of rebranding?

LS: Initially, we received an identity brief, but it wasn't considered a complete rebrand at that time. Our focus was primarily on visual updates. However, as the discussion evolved, these components gradually shifted from being the main focus to becoming part of a larger puzzle, from the logo, tone of voice, and messaging to how the brand moves with motion design.

RG: Yeah, I think the brief was we wanted a new visual identity. If you go to the executive team and say, “I want to change the logo,” you're not going to be able to do it. It’s about considering what we needed to communicate and why the way you do that matters, building a clear business case. Slowly, the logo became part of this bigger discussion about what we were conveying, and then, ultimately, that covered every aspect of our branding.

TW: Was there a particular challenge you faced as a retail brand, which is a platform for other brands when you're selling designer brands and still trying to create a strong sense of identity?

HB: I think it can be really easy for a retailer to feel, “If we do anything that's not simple and straightforward and quiet, then we’ll be getting in the way of other brands.” And on some level that can be true. If you're too loud and you're too rigid, then you don't create space for the brands that you're selling.

But I think part of our challenge was to land on a brand positioning and a creative idea that created more distinctiveness for Nordstrom Rack while at the same time still allowing for the flexibility to help the brands it stocks shine. The answer is a system that can work with whatever different brands it needs to. And I think where we landed allowed for both to be true.

KW: What do you think were the key factors that made the rebrand successful from your point of view?

HB: For me, it was landing on an insight that's really true — one that nobody else has arrived at. We built a deep understanding of who the Rack customer was and took the time to really recognize just how badass this customer was.

LS: Absolutely. It's so disappointing, from a design perspective how mistreated this category has been. But it's so empowering to shop to save and be savvy in that way. So why can't the brand identity reflect that kind of badass real swagger that a consumer who buys that way can have? And so, of course, the identity expression of this brand has a lot of gravitas; it’s very bold and agile.

RG: When you ask what made it successful, I’d say the number one thing for me was the partnership between our two teams. We leveraged the skill sets of both teams, and that, along with not being willing to settle for anything less than the best possible solution, really ensured the success of this experience.

KW: That's fantastic. It leads me to another question which I wanted to ask. Has there been a challenge in giving Nordstrom Rack its own direction while not straying too far from the kind of sibling brand, or mother brand, of Nordstrom?

HB: I think it’s interesting that you mention the word "sibling." We had many conversations about what the relationship is between the two brands. Part of the process was identifying the core tenants of both Nordstrom and Nordstrom Rack and understanding what they meant for Nordstrom and what they meant for Rack.

RG: I remember one of our executives saying to me afterward, “Somehow, you've made Rack stand on its own from Nordstrom. But you've also somehow incorporated the Nordstrom logo within the Rack logo that brings them closer.” It was a really interesting perception of what we did.

TW: And how does that tie into your aim of “future-proofing” the Rack brand?

LS: That was one of the design challenges that we needed to overcome. At the moment, obviously, the Rack system is still manually designed and templated. But there are so many ways, when I think of tools like Frontify and where automated templates are going, that you could easily create a set of tools that could be transferred. I think there is still a way to go with that sort of technology, but the idea was to build a system that could be ready for automation, too.

TW: It's really interesting to see how you could build that space that can allow automation but also ensure a level of human control, creatively and practically.

LS: And digitally as well. Obviously, one of the first places we looked to roll this brand out was in the e-commerce space. We really had to think digital-first because that's obviously the most effective way. But it's also a very big commitment in terms of improving the e-commerce side of the business. Then, of course, there are new stores being opened, so we had to think, “How can those stores start to take on the new identity?” It was almost like there was a modular rollout to the modular design system.

KW: That’s brilliant. When you talk about the amazing complexity of this modular system, what were the risks you saw coming in? Was there something you were particularly wary about in terms of pulling this off successfully?

RG: From my standpoint, the risk with any rebrand is always your physical assets. Digitally, you can rebrand overnight: As soon as the work's done, you can put it out into the world. When you have 300 stores nationwide with giant Nordstrom Rack logos all over the place, you start looking at the cost of a rebrand, and it really adds up. Needless to say, you need to have a strong stomach and get very comfortable with the fact that you’re going to have to fight for your rebrand!